Experts discuss problems of Armenia
ArmInfo. The processes taking place in Armenia today were discussed at the round table "Problems around Armenia and their possible solutions" that took place the day before. Experts and political scientists, representatives of public organizations took part in the public discussion.
The processes taking place today in Armenia were discussed at the round table "Problems around Armenia and their possible solutions" that took place the day before. Experts and political scientists, representatives of public organizations took part in the public discussion.
Former NA deputy, analyst Arman Abovyan noted in his speech that the events taking place these days in Armenia are of an extraordinary nature, since, on the one hand, it seems that political processes are emerging, but on the other hand, they cannot be called completely political. In this context, the expert referred to the statement of the leader of the movement, Archbishop Bagrat Srbazan, that the movement was blessed by Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin, since what is happening is an ontological problem for everyone, and the position of the Church is that these ontological risks do not threaten the opposition or the authorities, and to every Armenian, every citizen of the country.
"I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a political component in the movement, everything will ultimately be decided in the political field, but the process itself, the philosophy must be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman Abovyan. "I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a political component to the movement, everything will ultimately be decided in the political field, but the process itself, the philosophy should be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman Abovyan.
Media expert Tigran Kocharyan noted in his speech that what is happening today in Armenia is a slightly different process, since the policy of the authorities is opposed not by classical politicians, but by the ministers of the Armenian Apostolic Church, against whom the authorities will not be able to "effectively" use their proven tools - intimidation, arrests, persecution, pressure, etc. Because persecution opens the gates of heaven even wider for church ministers. That is why the technologies that the authorities tried to work with, up to the discrediting of Bagrat Galstanyan, did not work, they gave the opposite result. "That's why today they are trying in every possible way to connect Bagrat Galstanyan with one or another former politician," he said.
Kocharyan noted that the leader of the movement is fluent in all the tools that Pashinyan used 6 years ago to achieve power, and is fluent in the codes of communication with the people. "If a person goes to fight for the sake of faith, for the sake of an idea, it is difficult to fight with such people. The government is now in a difficult situation. And the authorities, as I see, for example, do not have any calculation of what will happen if force is used against Bagrat Galstanyan. At this stage, much depends on the position of the Minister of Internal Affairs Vahe Ghazaryan, whether the police will go against the people or join them. And it is clear that Vahe Kazaryan is under terrible pressure, because although Pashinyan would like to replace him, on the other hand, it is difficult for him to find such a devoted person. And it is in this Tavush triangle Pashinyan-Ghazaryan-Bagrat Galstanyan that issues will be resolved," added Tigran Kocharyan.
In turn, political scientist Vigen Hakobyan noted that this movement is not apolitical, but non-partisan, because the entire agenda, all the demands and assessments that have been put forward, starting with Kirants, are a political agenda. And in recent days, already in Yerevan, this agenda has acquired different shades: quite serious political demands were put forward, up to the resignation of the prime minister, and a political mechanism was proposed. "In my opinion, this is a public revolt against the politics and behavior of the authorities, which from the moment the procession reached Yerevan moved into the political arena, which Bagrat Galstanyan also spoke about yesterday. Yesterday there was talk about the institutionalization of the movement, which means that it must be an institution if they decide to go the constitutional route, and there is a great need to present some alternative to the public. In the coming days, the mechanisms for governing the movement will change, certain personalities will appear on the platform, which must be accepted by the public. I think it will be some kind of hybrid. an organ where both the spiritual class and some famous people will be represented," he said.
According to Hakobyan, the instruments of power do not work, the arsenal of anti-propaganda is not rich and has absolutely no effect. The authorities tried to use the same tools that, for example, against the second president Robert Kocharyan, but in this case it did not produce any results.
Political scientist Arman Ghukasyan, noting that Armenia has recently been in a turbulent state, recalled that the country's authorities, according to both internal and external opinion polls, today have very little support. The problem is that there is a lot of indifference in society, society is in a state of apathy, and the government is both responsible and the driving force behind the crisis that has developed in the country. According to Ghukasyan, society is no longer fixated on the individual, people are not waiting for a specific person, the most important question is who can offer ways out of this crisis.
"There can no longer be a personalized process, because one day, in 2018, such a "savior" appeared, and we see what came of it. I am convinced that a clear concept will win. Everyone is waiting for clear concepts, which means "Nikol, go away, and then we'll see what we'll do" won't work anymore. And the 2018 scenario won't work either. We need truly national unity, which will allow us to understand the following questions: well, the government has changed, how will the delimitation be carried out, or will we be able to return Artsakh?" the political scientist said.
In other words, Ghukasyan stated, we are at a stage when it is clear that Pashinyan's policy is a failure and the country needs other solutions, since it is impossible to lead the country out of this crisis only by changing power and changing people.
The processes taking place today in Armenia were discussed at the round table "Problems around Armenia and their possible solutions" that took place the day before. Experts and political scientists, representatives of public organizations took part in the public discussion.
Former NA deputy, analyst Arman Abovyan noted in his speech that the events taking place these days in Armenia are of an extraordinary nature, since, on the one hand, it seems that political processes are emerging, but on the other hand, they cannot be called completely political. In this context, the expert referred to the statement of the leader of the movement, Archbishop Bagrat Srbazan, that the movement was blessed by Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin, since what is happening is an ontological problem for everyone, and the position of the Church is that these ontological risks do not threaten the opposition or the authorities, and to every Armenian, every citizen of the country.
"I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a political component in the movement, everything will ultimately be decided in the political field, but the process itself, the philosophy must be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman Abovyan. "I do not and will not discuss the decisions of the church, but it is obvious that this movement, led by the Holy Church, is not creating a new social divide, but, on the contrary, is trying to destroy the existing divisions into black and white in society, basing it on the principle of pro-Armenian unity. We are talking about broad social solidarity, which is essentially apolitical. Yes, there is a political component to the movement, everything will ultimately be decided in the political field, but the process itself, the philosophy should be apolitical, as it is today," added Arman Abovyan.
Media expert Tigran Kocharyan noted in his speech that what is happening today in Armenia is a slightly different process, since the policy of the authorities is opposed not by classical politicians, but by the ministers of the Armenian Apostolic Church, against whom the authorities will not be able to "effectively" use their proven tools - intimidation, arrests, persecution, pressure, etc. Because persecution opens the gates of heaven even wider for church ministers. That is why the technologies that the authorities tried to work with, up to the discrediting of Bagrat Galstanyan, did not work, they gave the opposite result. "That's why today they are trying in every possible way to connect Bagrat Galstanyan with one or another former politician," he said.
Kocharyan noted that the leader of the movement is fluent in all the tools that Pashinyan used 6 years ago to achieve power, and is fluent in the codes of communication with the people. "If a person goes to fight for the sake of faith, for the sake of an idea, it is difficult to fight with such people. The government is now in a difficult situation. And the authorities, as I see, for example, do not have any calculation of what will happen if force is used against Bagrat Galstanyan. At this stage, much depends on the position of the Minister of Internal Affairs Vahe Ghazaryan, whether the police will go against the people or join them. And it is clear that Vahe Kazaryan is under terrible pressure, because although Pashinyan would like to replace him, on the other hand, it is difficult for him to find such a devoted person. And it is in this Tavush triangle Pashinyan-Ghazaryan-Bagrat Galstanyan that issues will be resolved," added Tigran Kocharyan.
In turn, political scientist Vigen Hakobyan noted that this movement is not apolitical, but non-partisan, because the entire agenda, all the demands and assessments that have been put forward, starting with Kirants, are a political agenda. And in recent days, already in Yerevan, this agenda has acquired different shades: quite serious political demands were put forward, up to the resignation of the prime minister, and a political mechanism was proposed. "In my opinion, this is a public revolt against the politics and behavior of the authorities, which from the moment the procession reached Yerevan moved into the political arena, which Bagrat Galstanyan also spoke about yesterday. Yesterday there was talk about the institutionalization of the movement, which means that it must be an institution if they decide to go the constitutional route, and there is a great need to present some alternative to the public. In the coming days, the mechanisms for governing the movement will change, certain personalities will appear on the platform, which must be accepted by the public. I think it will be some kind of hybrid. an organ where both the spiritual class and some famous people will be represented," he said.
According to Hakobyan, the instruments of power do not work, the arsenal of anti-propaganda is not rich and has absolutely no effect. The authorities tried to use the same tools that, for example, against the second president Robert Kocharyan, but in this case it did not produce any results.
Political scientist Arman Ghukasyan, noting that Armenia has recently been in a turbulent state, recalled that the country's authorities, according to both internal and external opinion polls, today have very little support. The problem is that there is a lot of indifference in society, society is in a state of apathy, and the government is both responsible and the driving force behind the crisis that has developed in the country. According to Ghukasyan, society is no longer fixated on the individual, people are not waiting for a specific person, the most important question is who can offer ways out of this crisis.
"There can no longer be a personalized process, because one day, in 2018, such a "savior" appeared, and we see what came of it. I am convinced that a clear concept will win. Everyone is waiting for clear concepts, which means "Nikol, go away, and then we'll see what we'll do" won't work anymore. And the 2018 scenario won't work either. We need truly national unity, which will allow us to understand the following questions: well, the government has changed, how will the delimitation be carried out, or will we be able to return Artsakh?" the political scientist said.
In other words, Ghukasyan stated, we are at a stage when it is clear that Pashinyan's policy is a failure and the country needs other solutions, since it is impossible to lead the country out of this crisis only by changing power and changing people.